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		<title>By: ELAN Technologies</title>
		<link>http://kansieo.com/2009/04/15/php-script-security-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>ELAN Technologies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 13:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree to you completely.
But piracy is something that cannot be stopped unless you have made extra secured software. I enjoyed the discussion.
Nice post though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree to you completely.<br />
But piracy is something that cannot be stopped unless you have made extra secured software. I enjoyed the discussion.<br />
Nice post though.</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Manchester</title>
		<link>http://kansieo.com/2009/04/15/php-script-security-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-860</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Manchester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing elese you can do really in terms of whats happening. The steps you&#039;ve taken and the comments that that have been provided are spot on. Fine job with the plug-in and you&#039;ll get recognition as long as the marketing of it is sound. Keep plugging mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing elese you can do really in terms of whats happening. The steps you&#8217;ve taken and the comments that that have been provided are spot on. Fine job with the plug-in and you&#8217;ll get recognition as long as the marketing of it is sound. Keep plugging mate.</p>
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		<title>By: mimar</title>
		<link>http://kansieo.com/2009/04/15/php-script-security-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>mimar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to be honest here, you’ve created quite an astounding plugin, but there is no way you’re gonna be able to protect it from being pirated.

Adobe, Microsoft, and tons of other giant corporations have failed, what makes you think you’ll be different?

I’m not trying to sounds like an a**hole, just saying what’s on my mind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to be honest here, you’ve created quite an astounding plugin, but there is no way you’re gonna be able to protect it from being pirated.</p>
<p>Adobe, Microsoft, and tons of other giant corporations have failed, what makes you think you’ll be different?</p>
<p>I’m not trying to sounds like an a**hole, just saying what’s on my mind</p>
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		<title>By: Beasiswa</title>
		<link>http://kansieo.com/2009/04/15/php-script-security-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>Beasiswa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 06:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve also resigned myself to the fact that if it’s written in PHP and given to a 3rd party, there is no good way to secure it.
Yes, I agree with you. Thanks a lot for reminding me. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve also resigned myself to the fact that if it’s written in PHP and given to a 3rd party, there is no good way to secure it.<br />
Yes, I agree with you. Thanks a lot for reminding me. <img src='http://kansieo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://kansieo.com/2009/04/15/php-script-security-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 19:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a member of a couple different forums where this plugin is available and nulled. The description in several forum posts piqued my interest, and I came to your site to find out more.

You have a video example of a part of the plugin&#039;s functionality. That, coupled with the descriptions and comments on the forum posts, convinced me to purchase it, even though I could have gotten the current version for free.

My thinking is this: If somebody comes up with a tool that has an obvious benefit to it (in this case, a huge time saver) then purchasing it is the only way to encourage them to continue development. Getting it for free is extremely short-sighted, in my opinion.

The other side of piracy is that you get a pretty good idea whether or not your product is any good, as it will either be praised or slammed liberally by those who download/use it.

As mentioned above, a service where the software calls home to get data is likely the only way to combat the majority of the piracy (sort of like Keyword Elite, perhaps). There will always be somebody who will likely crack it, but support and updates are important to the people who use it.

I would also wager that a large percentage of the pirated copies floating around are not being used, but rather tried once and now collecting dust on someone&#039;s hard drive. Getting access to something for free immediately devalues it to those who steal it, and as such it is not treated with the same attention as something they bought.

At any rate, keep up the good work! It is very much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a member of a couple different forums where this plugin is available and nulled. The description in several forum posts piqued my interest, and I came to your site to find out more.</p>
<p>You have a video example of a part of the plugin&#8217;s functionality. That, coupled with the descriptions and comments on the forum posts, convinced me to purchase it, even though I could have gotten the current version for free.</p>
<p>My thinking is this: If somebody comes up with a tool that has an obvious benefit to it (in this case, a huge time saver) then purchasing it is the only way to encourage them to continue development. Getting it for free is extremely short-sighted, in my opinion.</p>
<p>The other side of piracy is that you get a pretty good idea whether or not your product is any good, as it will either be praised or slammed liberally by those who download/use it.</p>
<p>As mentioned above, a service where the software calls home to get data is likely the only way to combat the majority of the piracy (sort of like Keyword Elite, perhaps). There will always be somebody who will likely crack it, but support and updates are important to the people who use it.</p>
<p>I would also wager that a large percentage of the pirated copies floating around are not being used, but rather tried once and now collecting dust on someone&#8217;s hard drive. Getting access to something for free immediately devalues it to those who steal it, and as such it is not treated with the same attention as something they bought.</p>
<p>At any rate, keep up the good work! It is very much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: kansieo</title>
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		<dc:creator>kansieo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick: Interesting--I&#039;ve actually never thought to go that route, although I do get requests for one on one installation help...

@Gregory: That&#039;s my problem--time, or just not enough of it! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick: Interesting&#8211;I&#8217;ve actually never thought to go that route, although I do get requests for one on one installation help&#8230;</p>
<p>@Gregory: That&#8217;s my problem&#8211;time, or just not enough of it! <img src='http://kansieo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a software developer i know that piracy is and always will be an &quot;ASPECT&quot; of the game. But the trick is to make it too difficult for the masses to pirate and not too difficult to install for the masses.

There will always be a bunch of evil geniuses with more time on their hands than money to buy the software.

Keep a balance Kansieo. And make sure ur well marketed ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a software developer i know that piracy is and always will be an &#8220;ASPECT&#8221; of the game. But the trick is to make it too difficult for the masses to pirate and not too difficult to install for the masses.</p>
<p>There will always be a bunch of evil geniuses with more time on their hands than money to buy the software.</p>
<p>Keep a balance Kansieo. And make sure ur well marketed <img src='http://kansieo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nick The Geek</title>
		<link>http://kansieo.com/2009/04/15/php-script-security-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick The Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johny&#039;s right because I know for a fact that v3.37 has been pirated because I&#039;ve seen it.

And for the record, I&#039;m a delighted CC customer! :)

One other option you could think about which is quite radical would be to release it as open-source for free under the GPL, MIT, Creative Commons or some other &quot;open&quot; licence.

The script comes with zero support unless you people buy a support contract from you for a one-off/yearly $x amount.

That takes away the need to pirate, but still gives you a way to generate some income.

There are loads of companies out there using this business model (Linux distributions, MySQL etc.) so why not you?

I use this business model, so give me a shout if you want to talk more on this.

HTH

Cheers

Nick :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johny&#8217;s right because I know for a fact that v3.37 has been pirated because I&#8217;ve seen it.</p>
<p>And for the record, I&#8217;m a delighted CC customer! <img src='http://kansieo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>One other option you could think about which is quite radical would be to release it as open-source for free under the GPL, MIT, Creative Commons or some other &#8220;open&#8221; licence.</p>
<p>The script comes with zero support unless you people buy a support contract from you for a one-off/yearly $x amount.</p>
<p>That takes away the need to pirate, but still gives you a way to generate some income.</p>
<p>There are loads of companies out there using this business model (Linux distributions, MySQL etc.) so why not you?</p>
<p>I use this business model, so give me a shout if you want to talk more on this.</p>
<p>HTH</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Nick <img src='http://kansieo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Si</title>
		<link>http://kansieo.com/2009/04/15/php-script-security-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>Si</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If ya need any beta testers for the hosted version..... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If ya need any beta testers for the hosted version&#8230;.. <img src='http://kansieo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kansieo</title>
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		<dc:creator>kansieo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Si: I&#039;ve got a hosted version ready and waiting backstage.  Just need to iron out a few kinks, most notably with the limits imposed by the services I&#039;m accessing...

BS: Currently, I do mash up the function names and SOME variables.  And then run it through a simplistic little encoding routine.  Realistically, it&#039;s just keeping the honest people honest. ;)

Johny: Believe me, I know--as long as your PHP code is in a third party&#039;s hands, it is remarkably impossible to protect.  Even the Zend and Ioncube encoders fail at this, though they do up the protection for a price ($$, customers have to have the decoder installed on server, something I&#039;m not willing to put my customers through).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Si: I&#8217;ve got a hosted version ready and waiting backstage.  Just need to iron out a few kinks, most notably with the limits imposed by the services I&#8217;m accessing&#8230;</p>
<p>BS: Currently, I do mash up the function names and SOME variables.  And then run it through a simplistic little encoding routine.  Realistically, it&#8217;s just keeping the honest people honest. <img src='http://kansieo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Johny: Believe me, I know&#8211;as long as your PHP code is in a third party&#8217;s hands, it is remarkably impossible to protect.  Even the Zend and Ioncube encoders fail at this, though they do up the protection for a price ($$, customers have to have the decoder installed on server, something I&#8217;m not willing to put my customers through).</p>
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		<title>By: Johny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to be honest here, you&#039;ve created quite an astounding plugin, but there is no way you&#039;re gonna be able to protect it from being pirated.

Adobe, Microsoft, and tons of other giant corporations have failed, what makes you think you&#039;ll be different?

I&#039;m not trying to sounds like an a**hole, just saying what&#039;s on my mind.

Cheers,
Johny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to be honest here, you&#8217;ve created quite an astounding plugin, but there is no way you&#8217;re gonna be able to protect it from being pirated.</p>
<p>Adobe, Microsoft, and tons of other giant corporations have failed, what makes you think you&#8217;ll be different?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to sounds like an a**hole, just saying what&#8217;s on my mind.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Johny</p>
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		<title>By: blackhat seo</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackhat seo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way to be sure is to offer part of the software as a service. Also some simple obfuscation, replacing all variable/function names with random strings, would prevent people from doing much with your code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way to be sure is to offer part of the software as a service. Also some simple obfuscation, replacing all variable/function names with random strings, would prevent people from doing much with your code.</p>
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		<title>By: Si</title>
		<link>http://kansieo.com/2009/04/15/php-script-security-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>Si</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve thought about the same thing mate (although I&#039;m still reluctant to unleash my poorly-coded creations on the public!)

The only way I can see to completely avoid piracy is to offer it for free yourself and somehow make that pay. 

Offering a free &quot;lite&quot; version might help, or maybe support a free version with ads or links inserted every x posts?

A different approach would be to sell it as a hosted service rather than a plugin - seems to work for datapresser.

Take it easy,

Si</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve thought about the same thing mate (although I&#8217;m still reluctant to unleash my poorly-coded creations on the public!)</p>
<p>The only way I can see to completely avoid piracy is to offer it for free yourself and somehow make that pay. </p>
<p>Offering a free &#8220;lite&#8221; version might help, or maybe support a free version with ads or links inserted every x posts?</p>
<p>A different approach would be to sell it as a hosted service rather than a plugin &#8211; seems to work for datapresser.</p>
<p>Take it easy,</p>
<p>Si</p>
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